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Thread #154378   Message #3621882
Posted By: Dave the Gnome
24-Apr-14 - 06:43 AM
Thread Name: Bacup Nuters and Racism
Subject: RE: Bacup Nuters and Racism
It would appear that this particular tradition is not "centuries old"

Sorry, Jim, but I must disagree with you there. 1857-2014 = 157 years. Just over 1.5 centuries. Surely our definition of century is not different is it?

Les - You are quite right of course. Denying origins is as bad as making them up. The trouble here is that, at the risk of repeating myself, no-one really knows the origins. Anyone that claims categorically that it stems from Moorish pirates, fertility rituals or imitating minstrelsy is probably wrong. Not necessarily in what they are saying, but in saying it is unequivocal. I think it is pretty much like the theory of evolution. But let's not go there!

Out of interest, do you know Eddie Cass? Folklorist and expert in all things to do with Lancashire, and other, traditions? Without giving away any secrets he is not far from you at all and is very approachable. If you don't know him and need an introduction just let me know.

Matt - Exceptionally good point. Education, communication and understanding. The way forward :-)

Cheers

DtG