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Thread #153638   Message #3621997
Posted By: Stringsinger
24-Apr-14 - 12:21 PM
Thread Name: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
"The BDS campaign has two main ingredients -- one is deception and the other is another kind of lie."

No, the great lie is the overt propaganda offered by the Israeli government.

"In some countries, there is a political ideology sponsored by the government that may be called political religion."

Not in a democracy. Thomas Jefferson had a lot to say about that.

Although Israel has many church affiliates within its borders, they are permitted only if they don't interfere with the occupation of Palestinians.

"WAiting on future "BDS" of theocracies…"

That sounds like a very good idea. Fortunately, the advanced countries of the world are not subjected to theocratic pressure.

It must be remembered that Arabs, Palestinians and Muslims in general can't be anti-Semitic because they are anthropologically classified as Semites as well as Jews.

BB says about me, "Stringsinger doesn't have a problem with Christian states Vatican, most of Europe, All of South America) , or Muslim ones Iran, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, etc…). He only objects to Jewish states."

I must tell him that he is grossly misinformed and has not bothered to ask what I really think about this issue but like some here wants to corner me by his verbal traps.

I have a problem with Christian States, Muslim States or any theocracy that doesn't observe the Separation of Church and State as we have traditionally done in the US since the inception of our Constitution which defines us as Americans.

I don't think BB is qualified to comment on what takes place in "most of Europe" or "all of South America" which is becoming more and more enlightened and unchurched.

As in the US, the governments of many countries have been corrupted by clerical power
however, in time this will be rectified in the same manner as corporate power here in the States becomes apparent.

"Stringsinger -- The fact that Judaism is the official state religion no more makes Israel "a theocracy" than the fact that the Church of England is "Established" makes the UK one. Or are all countries with a state religion theocracies? In which case how is it as pejorative a term as you are obviously trying to make it sound? "

Then perhaps you can explain Zionism to me reasonably and its predication on scriptural references. The Church of England is being ignored and not used as a method of occupation, though in the past, this might have taken place. Yes, all countries with a state religion could be classified as a theocracy especially if it takes its form in controlling official governmental decisions. I am merely explaining that a country that uses religion to base its political decisions as does Israel and Saudi Arabia are in fact theocracies. Pejorative is not the word I have used.