I have no idea if what anyone says on here is true unless I know about it already. I will occasionally see something that interests me and look it up but I will not take anything I find on Google as the truth. Funny thing is that I believe what Musket says, even if he cannot prove it. Lack of proof does not mean it is not true. I also believe what Keith says but, as Keith knows, I set no store whatsoever by government statistics and those supplied by parties with their own agenda. I could be proved wrong on either or both counts but I take that chance. They are both nice guys in their own way and, provided they buy ne a pint, I would have a drink with tem (See, practicing my new Yorkshire status :-) )

What I do know is that these discussions go nowhere. The mods must get sick of them. They must get even more sick of people joining in the fight and then whinging that the other party is not playing fair. If anyone expects to stir the shit and not create a foul atmosphere they are seriously deluded.

DtG