Come on Musket that is a gross distortion of my post. In fact I don't think it could be more distorted if you tried. Bannockburn and Bravheart were only mentioned because I was saying that the argument is 'not' based on history (ie I was disputing that there is any Braveheart effect) and that the referendum is 'not' taking place on the anniversary of Bannockburn as Stu had suggested.