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Thread #154376   Message #3629140
Posted By: MGM·Lion
30-May-14 - 08:27 AM
Thread Name: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
OK Jim. One more try.

If it's only religion you don't love, then WHY do you denounce all my animadversions against the evident effects of the teachings of Islam, as urged by its own adherents, and, in particular, many of their ministers of the faith, as 'racist'? You can't have it both ways. When young murderers defend themselves in the public courts, on the plea that their crime was "an act of war" -- the Holy War enjoined on them by their Prophet -- then how can you accuse me of 'racism' when I reject this explicitly religion-based defence, and denounce the effects of the teachings of the works they claim to be citing in their defence? The fact that your neighbour, that nice Mr Patel, might not agree with their plea is neither here or there [& I repeat that you don't know what he may have to say on the subject when speaking to his co-religionists -- he's not going to tell you, is he?]. And from such animadversions of mine, you make your great slide [which you excuse yourself with "Whoops! Just being rhetorical"] of saying that in doing so I have somehow implicitly complained of someone or other "coming over here to take our jobs". I won't let you forget that libellous attack, any more than you can bring yourself to forget what some others have said on certain matters. For shame, Jim!

Get your head together, Jim. Either they are a race, in which case your cries of "racism" might make some sense; or they are just a religion, which you therefore deny supporting, in which case I am perfectly entitled to express views as to the observable adverse effects of this religion's teachings on many of its adherents, and those with whom they may come into contact: whether as legal authorities flogging & stoning young Sudanese women of whose marriages they might disapprove, or yobbos hacking soldiers to death in the streets of London, or Pakistani mobs killing brides uninhibited by the surrounding police officers.

Can't have it both ways, Jim. Sorry. They are not a race, as you demonstrate you well know by your pathetic opening of your last post to me. And as they are not, I am perfectly entitled to express adverse opinions as to the deleterious effects of their teachings as a religion.

Got it? If not, then I think you had better go & reinsure with Confused.com.

~M~