no it was the same place.
times change though.
the rude young man on the door wasn't lovely. the players were shit, and knew nowt about folk music, but thought they knew everything.
it was the mid 70's by the time I started performing. I took the time to learn my instrument before I needed lessons on playing it - certainly from Peggy Seeger - and Ralph McTell remains one of my biggest influences.
He is not just folk - he is a great writer and performer of folk music. Probably cos he comes from Croydon and his family knew the Bently's, his song about Derek Bently beats the shit out of Ewan's.

what happened, happened. I have no reason to lie. I'm willing to bet I went to the Grey Cock more times than you. I went there because I was interested in their guests. During the times I went I never saw any of the other Birmingham trad singers who used to go to the Prince of Wales and the Old Crown - they all gave it a very wide berth. It was actually notorious by this point.

the idea of the Irish singers going there, who hung around The Star and the pubs of Digbeth and the Irish centre would have been ludicrous. I mean those guys could play!