Of course, intelligent people couldn't possibly debate Islamic radicalism without addressing Western moral intent, Israel and hypocrisy in other cults that point out the failings of Islamic belief.

But that isn't what this is about is it? Keith and Michael just want to list atrocities to persuade people to be circumspect over Muslims over here. Michael just pulled Keith up for straying from shock horror and Keith apologised.

Fuck me gently.

I'd up the dose , for what it's worth.