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Thread #150703   Message #3631006
Posted By: Jim Carroll
07-Jun-14 - 03:29 AM
Thread Name: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
"[repeat nineteen forty-eight, 66 years ago"
Exactly - within five years of the events he was referring to when he suggested the possibilities of Israel echoing those events - sixty odd years later a leading figure in Israeli security, one who was complicit in some of the atrocities, an Israeli patriot, would say that this was what Israel had become.
You have never had the bottle to actually address Irraeli atrocities Mike - you have only ever paid lip-service to them.
You are outraged at my/Einstein's/the Mossad man's comparison, yet you pass over Israel's continuing aggression with a vague nod of disapproval -otherwise, total silence
The only reference I can remember your ever making to Sabra/Shatila is one of your sneers at my bringing it up.
The only 'defence' of Israeli actions here is Keith's moronic claim that Israel must be OK because Western politicians have "warm and friendly relations" with her, as they do with the perpetrators of the Tienanmen Square massacre - everything else is silence or denial.
The rest of you have settled for outrage on my using a comparison that many other peple are making, including Jews.
The Jewish people deserve far more than this sort of hypocrisy.
How dare you bunch of turds implicate the Jewish people in the militarist, religion driven aggression that is taking place in the Middle East today
Another 1500 homes on the West Bank were announced yesterday in response to the Palestinian decision to unite the two disputing groups - that unification has been welcomed by the west as bringing about a possibility of peace - Israel's lethally spiteful opposition makes the possibility of peace even more remote.
Attributing Israel's actions to the Jewish people debase them in their entirety.
It is now common to hear Israel's aggressive expansionism described as fascist or apartheid or ethnic cleansing.
Einstein warned against this happening sixty odd years ago, today, Jewish intellectuals like Noam Chomski are talking in terms of "State Terrorism" and "political and economic fascism".
Throughout the world, politicians and human rights groups are openly describing what is happening in the Middle East as "ethnic cleansing" and "Apartheid".
Throughout the world Jews are organising themselves into groups in order to express their opposition to the behaviour of the Israeli regime - many are making the same comparisons.
The first time I ever heard the term "Jewish Fascism" was from a Jewish friend, we were in a relationship at the time and it was the first serious argument between us.
I remember it clearly because it was just after we had both come out of a Manchester cinema in tears, having sat though the horrors of the documentary epic 'Shoah'.
She expressed her misgivings of what was happening in Israel, even back then; I was horrified that someone coming from a family of holocaust survivors should make such a comparison and reacted badly.
You don't like Israel being compared to the Nazis - neither do I.
Do something about it other than whine about the comparison, or learn to live with it.
Do not attempt to implicate the Jewish people as a whole with the actions of Israels militaristic and political extremist thugs - it is as bad as blaming the Muslim people for the extremist behaviour of Islamist fanatics, which you all make a habit of doing anyway.
Jim Carroll