From this debate you can see how Israel frustrates and embarrasses Western governments and especially educated reasonable people therein.

Don't forget, the facile lazy memes that the likes of Keith, Michael , Poo Bad etc are coming out with are nothing to the propaganda intelligent people with polarised views can manage.

I too have spent time in Israel. I too see happy smiling faces on the beach. But I saw hypocrisy by the, to be fair, scared members of the general public and a deep ingrained belief that Palestinians shouldn't be given a single inch. I saw men with goldilocks hairstyles nodding and telling people to bulldozer Arab settlements. (My business interests took me to such places sadly) and I saw rational people having to observe their Sabbath or face victimisation and worse.

That was mid ' 90s. I see nothing to suggest they are any further in trying to live with neighbours and I see no attempt to comply with UN resolutions we demand they follow.

That's we. Western governments who use resolutions such as this to rein in rogue states. In case you weren't aware, there are some EU restrictions on selling military and espionage equipment to Israel as we see it as a rogue state.

Your move.