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Thread #150703   Message #3631368
Posted By: Jim Carroll
08-Jun-14 - 09:26 AM
Thread Name: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
"Just lying propaganda for the consumption of gullible dupes."
All reports of Israeli atrocities have been reported by Human rights groups   such as Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty International.
They have been condemned by Jewish organistions such Jews for Justice and have been compared to fascism by Jews themselves as far back as Einstein, through to Noam Chomski and the ex-leader of Mossad.
Describing all these as "lying propaganda" and "gullible" and making the outrageous suggestion that "Governments know better" is confirmation of your own fascism - it is a classical definition of fascism - the tying of the people's will to that of the state (Italy's bundle of sticks).
Mike has declined to comment on Jewish accusations of Einstein and co's comments on Israel, or on any similar Jewish statement - gullible propaganda - Antisemitism - what?
I'd go and watch the tennis with Tinkerbell if I were you - you've shown us what you're made of and added another paragraph to your CV.
Israel it a terrorist state that would have long ago been indicted for its crimes if it hadn't had the protection of US vetoes.
More Israeli "gullible Antisemites"

The massacre was a wild suspension of law and morality, and the interesting normative questions concern the scope and degree of responsibility. The killers entered the camps at the behest of Israeli officials who were certainly aware of Phalangist hostility towards
Palestinians -- Phalangists had previously massacred Palestinians when the Tel Az-Zater refugee camp was taken in 1976, and Bashir Gemayel had repeatedly described the Palestinians as "a people too many" in Lebanon. An Israeli commission of inquiry ridiculed the claim that a massacre was not forseen by Israeli officials, especially after Gemayel's assassination, and concluded that "indirect responsibility" rested on the shoulders of Sharon, Eitan, IDF commanders, Foreign Minister Yitsak Shamir, and Prime
Minister Begin. Presumably, the qualifier "indirect" was based on the assumption that Israeli soldiers did not actually do the killing. Yet, allowing the revenge-seeking Lebanese Forces into the camps under the fiction that they would clean out "terrorists" suggests complicity if not outright instigation. In other circumstances, those responsible -
- directly or indirectly -- would have been convicted of war crimes

Have a good day
Jim Carroll