I suppose when you set yourself up on these threads to defend the metaphysical, it becomes incumbent upon you to defend the indefensible too when coming from the same source.

You know, even if you took the emotive imagery of the septic tank away, the errr.. rather high mortality rate of children doesn't show this particular catholic public service in a good light. The lies and cover ups around it seem to drift their way up the hierarchy of the organisation. The church tells people they go to a mythical heaven and having got people to believe it, say that babies not baptised don't get to join them there. You don't need to invoke the Cold War to invoke brainwashing as a concept.

To a spaceman looking in, or a person devoid of superstition for that matter, it doesn't seem the sort of thing to try and defend.

These babies and small children died at a time most Mudcat members were babies and small children.