"They don't seem to have learned much vis a vis the treatment of Palestinians and the planting of illegal settlements, T-Bird."

What illegal settlements Greg F?

"There are no illegal settlements - unless of course one assumes that Jews should not own property or build in those areas because they are Jews. Every current Jewish "settlement" is on land owned by Jews before 1948 or purchased after 1967. Settlements that tried to set up on land that was not Jewish owned have been dismantled. - bobad

Now that seems plain enough, but let us look at it from the other angle Greg F IF the settlements are illegal then that implies that there are borders and that the land "belongs" to someone else. Can you show us Greg F what borders the Palestinians accept, respect and guarantee?

This one perhaps?

As to the treatment of Palestinian Arabs and other minorities living in Israel I would think that the absence of masses of refugees fleeing this imagined oppression that you infer sort of blows that particular "duck" of yours clean out of the water.

Now if you want to really address how people treat other minority groups and other religions take a look at what has happened in Gaza since the Palestinians took over, take a look at Syria in the "rebel" held areas and take a look at the Lebanon since the Syrian invasion and occupation.

I think that what you will find is that the minority ethnic and religious groups in Israel are thriving whilst the ethnic and religious groups in all the other places mentioned have declined sharply.

Stringsinger, I will ask you a simple question that from you only requires a simple YES or NO answer (All other considerations can be debated afterwards) :

"Does the State of Israel have the right to exist and do the citizens of that sovereign state of Israel have the right to live in peace free from attack and threat of attack?"

I ask because I get the distinct impression from everything you write on the subject that the honest answer I expect to get from you is - NO it doesn't and NO they don't.