'my moan is about those who push their values on others and judge them'
fair enough - does that include judging people as 'churlish idiots' if they have different values to your own? i in no way want to criticise eliza etc - on the contrary- just saying that i am a bit disappointed. i feel we are endorsing the establishment (and the monarch who i am quite confident has never been to a folk gig or heard of the carthys) by going along with this patronage and they (unlike EC) do not deserve our approval.