Troubadour: As to "admitting that Israel is NOT a Jewish state", as you triumphantly claim Bobad to have done:-

It has never been a religiously Jewish state [ie a 'theocracy']. It was founded as an ETHNICALLY Jewish state, from earliest late-C19 concept of the early pioneers who founded the early kibbutzim, & from Herzl's writings, onward. This thread, as so many, is bedeviled by this constant failure to distinguish between Judaism as a FAITH, and Judaism as a RACIAL or ETHNIC group. Naturally there will be much overlap; but it is nevertheless a distinction to be constantly kept in mind in discussing any matters pertaining to Israel, or to the Jews in general. These days, probably the majority of those who regard themselves as Jewish keep up few, if any, of the obligations of their traditional faith, but have more or less strong feelings of ethnic solidarity nonetheless.


~M~