I'm a fairly infrequent visitor to Mudcat these days and I haven't read all that you posted on the other thread, Lizzie, but I'd just like to make a couple of points. Firstly, you either believe in the trial by jury system or you don't. True, sometimes mistakes are made, but if you think they made the wrong decision in the case of Rolf Harris, does that not throw into question their decisions in the cases of Bill Roache, Michael Le Vell and Dave Lee Travis? You can't have it both ways. Secondly, is it not a good thing that, finally, women abused by 'celebrities' are coming forward? I don't know whether you're claiming that Savile was wrongly accused but, if so, you're wrong. 65 years ago my mother-in-law, at the age of 17, was raped by Savile. She was too ashamed to tell anyone at the time, or later, until after the death of her husband because she didn't want him to know. So she had to live with this for much of her life. Only now, when the truth is emerging, can she feel some catharsis. How many more women must feel the seem?