Sorry - have I missed something here?
It seems to me that 'Guest' - whoever he/she is - has put forward a number of valid and important points here which have been stifled and ignored by cries of - "how dare you sir/madam - are you a member of this exclusive club - I'll call the doorman to see you out!"
Insults?
Some of us have been told by Joe that the opinions we hold are not valid because we are atheists and therefore we have an agenda behind what we say and believe.
Don't know about anybody else, but I find that pretty ****** insulting.
Methinks, the lady doth protest too much.
How about dealing with what he/she has said rather than hiding behind his/her anonymity.
I don't know who Akenaton or Keith A or Bobad are, but I spend a great deal of time and effort responding to views they express which I find offensive, and sometimes downright dangerous.
Jim Carroll