This thread and the similar one are a La la land equivalent of what goes on in the real world.
Israel has far too many blinkered apologists for them to engage in real peace negotiations and the Palestinians have been kicked to fuck and let down so often, the world shouldn't really scratch it's head when they match the Israelis in sabre rattling and voting for hard nosed militants to sort this.
Just like in the real world, point out how disgraceful Israeli forces are being and you are accused of being a fan of the holocaust.
The likes of Bobad and beardedbruce have an agenda. Michael and, when he gets back, Keith like supporting any agenda if people such as Jim or I don't like it.