OK Jim -- you know I agree substantially, esp such as 'If one side is wrong, both are.' But you know my passion for accuracy; and I still think you were mistaken in accusing him of calling all of them by that particular designation when it was perfectly clear that he had only meant a particular, specific, part of the demographic. I still don't know quite what you meant by that "all" whom you accused him of denouncing but it's probably not worth your while explicating. Meanwhile I am not engaging further in this particular exchange; it was only that particular [what seemed to me] unwarranted accusation I was engaging with.