Well, clearly GFS, more on your & K's side than some others, although, as I never tire of saying, the way Israel has turned out is unhappily not what we hoped and worked for all those days of my far-off youth; & indeed constitutes probably the greatest disappointment of my entire long life.

But, try as I might to "consider all things", you & I clearly have somewhat differing ideas as to what the concept of "civility" subsumes...

~M~