Jim, I could see your point if I was making up the MSM health figures, but unfortunately for you, they are not MY figures.
They pertain to every country in the world, and are quite incontrovertible.

"The breadth of the opinions expressed on this forum is very much to be admired, the abuse that that liberality (whoops - soory, Ake hates liberals) is subjected to is not"

Sorry again Jim, but that is gobbled gook.....what is the abuse you refer to?

I don't hate people through colour, sexual preference, or political ideology.

I can disagree about how some of these things affect society, but no hatred.


The important thing is that anyone who attempts to put forward a conservative view on any subject, social or political, is immediately attacked by a gang of ideological blinkered people, who have no alternatives to supply, so depend heavily on personal invective.

I say that as a lifelong socialist.
That lifetime has taught me that no matter our political leanings, we need to listen to other views and either dispute them in a reasonable manner, or learn from others that some of our firmly entrenched views may be wrong.