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Thread #154903 Message #3645739
Posted By: GUEST
27-Jul-14 - 03:14 PM
Thread Name: Folk on 2 # Folkweave # LFSC
Subject: RE: Folk on 2 # Folkweave # LFSC
Hmm - the notes are a tad wrong. The tracks (2) from the LFSC came from an original BBC transcription disc found in Perth, Australia. Subsequent attempts to track these discs down have failed - they've probably gone into some private collection.
Hosts of the LFSC for all 39 (40?) programmes were indeed Robin Hall and Jimmie MacGregor. Alex Campbell performed on some of these programmes - but was never the host.
The LFSC programme 31 that we have uploaded is an off-air recording from the original LFSC made in Saudi Arabia. Download it and listen to it. If host Robin Hall sounds like Alex Campbell let us know!!
This we have:
Featured artists (programme 31): The Taverners.- Sandy Denny ("Green grow the laurels").- Bob Cann.- Don Partridge.- The Leesiders. Originally broadcast as "Cellar full of folk", November 7th, 1966. Sessions recorded at Cecil Sharp House, London.
http://cadensa.bl.uk/uhtbin/cgisirsi/?ps=RDQ7FI3XH6/WORKS-FILE/313210392/9
This we are still seeking:
Featured artists: The Strawberry Hill Boys, Felix Doran, Sandy Denny ("Fhir a bhata"), Esme Lewis, Paul McNeill. Recorded at Cecil Sharp House, London. Originally broadcast as "Cellar full of folk" on November 7th, 1966.
post:
http://cadensa.bl.uk/uhtbin/cgisirsi/?ps=b6yTpCVMbw/WORKS-FILE/185220098/9
The two songs included in the various CD sets / cassettes etc. - "Green grow the laurels" & "Fhir a bhata" - came from the transcription discs found in Perth Australia.
http://sandydennylist.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/bbc-sessions-1971-73.html
"... you had to have a disciplined approach for the Beeb. Once the recordings were done then the 4 tracks would be sprinkled in to the playlist of a 2 or 3 hour music radio show on Radio On. They then got passed around to other shows, got played on the BBC World Service Short Wave Folk Programmes and had acetates (short life 12" records) made that were shipped out to the "Colonies" national broadcasters like Australia's ABC, NZBC, Canada's CBC, Hong Kong's HKBC and a few others who had agreements to play them whenever and destroy them after 8 years. The Folk Song Cellar tracks on our Attic Tracks Vol. 3 cassette come from an acetate NOT destroyed but kept in the archives at the ABC in Perth, WA, and copied for me in their studios by a Fairport Friendly presenter, producer and penfriend ..."
Actually the 'acetates' for the LFSC were really 12in vinyl LP records. I have one no.: LP0151822 which is of programmes 11A and 12B. Others are in existence but very rare.
The British Library Sound Archives has a complete set - although we think that programme 40 is missing.
Now the strange thing is that on this website:
ur post:
http://www.sandydennyofficial.com/about-sandy/
it states: "She made the first of many appearances for the BBC at Cecil Sharp House on 2 December 1966 on the Folk Song Cellar programme.
However the BL Cadensa entry states that for the discs LP0152219 of programme 31 and LP0152223
of programme 36 date from 1967.12 aka December 1967; and that the recordings were broadcast as "Cellar full of folk" on November 7th 1966.
Incidentally the programmes were first aired by the NZBC at the end of 1968 / early 1969.
The other strange thing is that website after website keep repeating that Sandy made *numerous* appearances at the Folk Song Cellar - but only *two* instances have been recorded (literally). Were there more?
Mitch Park in NZ has tracked down, processed and restored *all* but a very few LFSC recordings - these were usually home-taped using reel-reel machines from NZBC National Programme broadcasts in the late 1960s and from repeats in the mid-1970s. He has been working with tapes that are almost 50 years old and has achieved outstanding results.
http://www.radiokidnappers.org.nz/prog_fos.php
http://folksong.org.nz/answers_for_abby/robyn_park.html
Indeed the folk world owes a huge debt of gratitude to Mitch and Robyn for rescuing these recordings in New Zealand.
And others such as Neil Jennings and Lawrence Mayes have kindly donated recordings such as from Saudi Arabia and Hong Kong.
CJB