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Thread #155013   Message #3646129
Posted By: Don Firth
28-Jul-14 - 07:58 PM
Thread Name: BS: Church joins real world
Subject: RE: BS: Church joins real world
Assuming there is any meaning there....

Goofy, your spavined brain cell blowing off politics as a "delusion" and merely a way to manipulate people shows how shallow your understanding is. Colleges and Universities all over the world have entire departments devoted to Political Science and offer degrees in the subject. Read the following and try to grasp what is being said:
Political science is a social science discipline concerned with the study of the state, nation, government, and politics and policies of government. Aristotle defined it as the study of the state. It deals extensively with the theory and practice of politics, and the analysis of political systems, political behavior, and political culture. Political scientists engage in revealing the relationships underlying political events and conditions, and from these revelations they attempt to construct general principles about the way the world of politics works. Political science intersects with other fields; including economics, law, sociology, history, anthropology, public administration, public policy, national politics, international relations, comparative politics, psychology, political organization, and political theory.

Political science has ancient roots; indeed, it originated almost 2,500 years ago with the works of Plato and Aristotle.
So if you think that politics is not worth studying seriously, you'll have to take it up with people like Plato, author of The Republic, Aristotle, author of Politics, and Cicero and Confucius, authors of a number of works on the subject. During the Renaissance, throughout Europe and in Italy in particular, a thorough understanding of the writings of Machiavelli was sometimes necessary for just staying alive.

As to "Left" and "Right," this has nothing to do with the wings of a bird. This classification is comparatively recent and dates from the French Revolution era, when those members of the National Assembly who supported the republic, the common people and a secular society sat on the left of the President of the Assembly, and supporters of the monarchy, aristocratic privilege and the Church sat on the right.


In more modern times, it can be generally said that the Right Wing tends to value tradition and social stratification, while the Left Wing values reform and egalitarianism, with the center trying to seek a balance between the two, such as with social democracy or regulated capitalism.

Political Science is also subsumed under the philosophical field of Ethics, and one cannot really deal with many of the "ins and outs" of politics without a good understanding of the field of Ethics. And Philosophy, which includes Ethics as one of its major fields, is another major department in colleges and universities.

So, Goofball, your cavalier dismissal of Politics displays a really wide area of ignorance.

AND—having a thorough knowledge of Ethics and Politics, not to mention History, does not in any way interfere with musical knowledge, talent, and ability. An intelligent mind is capable of dealing with a whole variety of subjects. Beethoven displayed strong political beliefs on a number of occasions, as did (do) a host of other musicians and composers.

It's not "either-or," Goofy. It's "AND."

Don Firth