The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #155128   Message #3646576
Posted By: Lighter
30-Jul-14 - 08:55 AM
Thread Name: AL Lloyd, is he the one that got away
Subject: RE: AL Lloyd, is he the one that got away
The ultimate question, perhaps, is whether Lloyd's songs were "fakes." Well, no, they weren't. They are just not very typical and not very reliable sources of information about nineteenth-century song culture.

As somebody once asked ironically, "Are the Arabian Nights a fake?"

The question's relevance depends on what you want. What we call The Arabian Nights is a translation (or a modernization of a translation)of various translations of various dates from various cultures. ("Aladdin" is Chinese, and "Sindbad" doesn't even appear in the earliest editions.) That makes it a real problem for scholars studying the stories and the cultures, but not for anybody else.

And there's a time-related element as well. Take Lloyd's "Reynardine." We feel cheated and hoaxed to learn that Lloyd deliberately suggested that R. was a were-fox by slyly adding a detail about teeth that only the folklorically inclined would be likely to notice. But in a hundred years, their descendants may be fascinated by the idea that "horror films were so popular in the mid-twentieth century that even 'Reynardine' was turned into a were-fox."

Some of them will undoubtedly add, "by the folk."