OK all points taken on board, and understood, not in any way dismissing anything that's been kindly said, and really not clevering and trying to have the last word, I've just tracked down T'owd Weaver in Kidson. ROUD 17771 and hate to say it the tune ain't that which Bert used. It's in 6/8 not 5/4. BUT the newly informed Dow will gladly concede that the Somerset tune is a great deal better, so thanks Bert, which sort of sums it all up. And now this irritating old fart is desperate to know what was the original song entitled 'The Irish Boy Roud 3334 is it any wonder I'm on medication. Please feel free to have two of the red pills and a lie down