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Thread #150703   Message #3646723
Posted By: Jim Carroll
30-Jul-14 - 03:18 PM
Thread Name: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
"You will doubtless deny that is an antisemitic remark, Jim; "
I most certainly do, and you and your bit of paper have yet to show otherwise, though you have had ample chance to do so
My remarks are aimed at Israeli terrorism and the slaughter of the Palestinian people - nothing to do with Jews
You were the first individual ever to refer to me directly as an Antisemite - in those days it was because of the number of criticisms I made of Israeli policy - since then, you have found a bit of paper to conveniently hide behind, other than the good old stand-by of six million dead Jews.
As Bruce the Bearded Belligerent drew attention to, though he didn't mean to, I'm sure, the Jewish people are suffering increases in Anti-Semitic attacks, largely due to Israeli policy.
You and yours have never had the balls to respond to the fact that prominent and loyal Jews have, in the past and continue to refer to what is happening in Israel as 'Fascism' and to compare it to the behavior of the Nazis - perhaps you would like to break the habit of a lifetime and do so now?
Einstein made such a comparison when the butcher of Deir Yassin, Menachem Begin, was invited to The United States.
Begin, of course, went on to facilitate the Sabra Shatila Massacre - he was rewarded by the people of Israel by being elected prime Minister.
Was Einstein an Anti- Semite?
The first person I ever heard to refer to the Israelis as Fascists was a Jewish girlfriend - her mother pointedly showed me the number tattooed on the inside of her forearm a little before she agreed with her daughter.
Was Mrs S and her daughter Anti Semites?
I get more than a little tired of your dishonesty and hypocrisy.
You and your mouthpiece Keith constantly refer to me and others who oppose Israeli policy as (loony) "lefties", yet it is you rightists who have done the most damage to the Jewish People over the 8 decades (the span of yur lifetime, and nearly mine).
It was the rise of the fascist RIGHT in Germany, which led to the persecution of Jews and eventually to the extermination of six million of their number.
The political RIGHT in Britain, supported that rise in a negative way by inaction and by penalising those who tried to oppose it by criminalising them and branding them "premature anti-fascists".
In and active sense, the British RIGHT produced Sir Oswald Mosely, Captain Archibald Maule Ramsay (whose Antisemitic poetry, written at the height of the exterminations, was once described by Keith as "harmless as the Dad's Army theme song") and the 12th Duke of Wellington (who died ranting at "the Jews") and a whole host of others ready to form a government when Herr Hitler won the war (this happy band included a crowned ex-monarch and his consort).
Antisemitism is very much the province of the extreme RIGHT in Britain and to be accused of being such by such extreme rightists as you Keith and Bullying Brucie, really isn't going to lead me to losing very much sleep, so feel free to look in the mirror the next time mood takes you, always remembering, of course, that it is you and not us who have implicated the Jewish people in Israeli war crimes.
Jim Carroll