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Thread #150703   Message #3647225
Posted By: Teribus
01-Aug-14 - 03:05 AM
Thread Name: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
Homs thread?
"I've made my views on Syria known, only to be met with suggestions that it was acceptable to sell Assad sniper rifles"

Not one single "sniper rifle" was sold to Syria by the UK Christmas - You claimed incorrectly they had been.

Your grounds for stating that rifles had been sold (with the inference that they had been sold by the British Government) was based upon a report that a licence had been granted to an independent arms dealer to export ~100,000 rounds of Standard NATO 7.62mm ammunition in 2009 - No evidence exists as to whether that sale ever took place, only that a licence had been granted.

What is my point Christmas?

1: Show me a map detailing the borders of Palestine and Israel agreed to by Hamas, Fatah and the Palestine Authority Unity Government that delineates the "Two State Solution" that the Palestinian leadership (All shades) says they are fighting for. There must be one surely, if you believe what they say - True?

Hamas Map of "Their" Palestine

The above map is for 3rd Graders to complete of Paøestine from an exam set in one of their schools in 2002-3. Care to point out on that map where Israel is Christmas?

Map of Palestine

Fatah Map of "Their" Palestine as shown on TV


2: Tell me why the ONLY Palestinian Refugee Camps in existence are on Palestinian territory controlled by Palestinians and in the lands of their Arab neighbours who were the ones that encouraged the Arabs of Palestine to reject the "Two State Solution" offered by the UN in 1947 and opt for War instead?

3: Please explain to me why:

"Any Arab, including his/her descendants, who can show that they worked in the mandated territory of Palestine for a minimum period of 18 months between 1923 and 1948 has a "Right of Return" while Jews:

- Who have lived in parts of what is now known as the West Bank for hundreds or years have none.

- Who legally purchased land between 1847 and 1919 during the Ottoman period have no right to reside in Israel.

The 18 month thing above is the established UN criteria - look it up.

A 72-hour Humanitarian ceasefire is now in place - let us see what happens. Hamas has always said that although it governs and controls Gaza it is incapable of controlling terrorist groups operating in their midst - If that statement is true then rockets will continue to fly, if not then their previous claims were total bullshit.

As part of this negotiated ceasefire (Which Christmas, implies that Hamas have been consulted and have agreed to it) IDF troops remain in their existing positions inside Gaza and NO Offensive operations can be undertaken by either side - that does leave the IDF free to destroy tunnel networks they find inside the territory they currently control - I repeat Hamas has agreed to this and has accepted it.