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Thread #150703   Message #3647242
Posted By: Jim Carroll
01-Aug-14 - 03:49 AM
Thread Name: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
"Show me a map detailing the borders of Palestine and Israel agreed to by Hamas"
Fuck your maps and your claims of Hamas and israel
Both the Muslims and the Jews have occupied these lands for millennia, both have an equal right to a peaceful life there - if old maps don't cater for that fact they are of as much use as those showing Mercia and Wessex.
It's time you people who want to instigate wars over ancient borders or religion are made as much a thing of the past as are the Empires which created these messes in the first place.
Why in gods name should I have to explain anything to somebody who supports political monsters like Pinochet and Thatcher (really dropped that ball, didn't you?)   
"Legally purchased - 1847 and 1919" my arse, let's see a way to stop thugs bombing hospitals and slaughtering patients, or is that ot to your taste?
Your selling weapons or equipment to Assad was another of your monumental foot-in-mouths.
Whether it was 'sniper rifles' (identified by Keith as such ""You have clearly been searching vigorously, but all you have come up with is some sniper rifles.") or sniper bullets is immaterial - both you and he approved of their sale to Assad at the time his snipers were slaughtering the people of Homs.   
Both you and Keith came together in support of selling military equipment to a murderous fascist dictator
Your support went something like this:
"That would be for the sniper rifles Jim.
Britain does not make Kalashnikov rounds".
"Even liberal democracies have to deal with riots.
Non-lethal crowd control techniques are preferable to live rounds".
"Snipers have to practice - they do rather a lot of it.""
Which more-or-less sums up where you are coming from.
You recently added the refinement of support for a murderous South American dictator who directed the rape torture and murder of thousands of his opponents in the name of "constitutional" democracy.
To date, your sole contribution to this discussion has been to suggest that the Palestinians should surrender themselves to the people who are slaughtering their men women and children and destroying their homes, schools, and hospitals.
If I wanted to tête-à-tête with an extremist I'd go to the B.N.P or 'White Supremist', or Muslim Watch', where they have, at least, refined their extremism into a sort of coherent policy, rather than swap insults with a toy soldier with the amusing habit of waving his gun around (any chance of showing us it again?)      
Go and play soldiers in the garden and we'll call you in when your dinner's ready
Jim Carroll