"Be positive lads, Bill and pete have shown the way.
Try not to be devious, say what you think, don't use second hand quotes to bolster your position."

Shine a light. Bill is a person I've got a huge amount of respect for, end of. Where have I been devious? That's not my trick, but then I have a clue what I'm talking about. Like pete said, I didn't get a university education but I'm there now and am taking the trouble to learn in great depth about my subject and other science to place it in context. But then I'm full of shit because I say "fuck" occasionally U suppose. Fuck.

As for my beliefs, don't presume to know them. You have zero idea how broad my outlook is. I'll still defend the people I work with and the science we all do in the face of wilful ignorance and softly-spoken falsehoods. Unlike some, I've no interest in prostelytism or adherence to dogma and unassailable views. Everything's open to question.

Fill you boots with self-righteous posturing; I'm trying to talk ideas here. There's a fundamental philosophical difference that I find interesting, but getting anyone to talk about is impossible.

Join the throng and call away ake. You've been scammed like the rest.