Oh bugger, both hands in the air on that one. :-( On one of my non-drinking days as well!

But still not very nice, which was my point really.

But not on Iraqi civilian deaths. You can shout FACT in capitals as much as you like but your FACTS were based on a bunch of outrageous statistical extrapolations. It's still there for anyone to read. You do seem to confuse fact with fancy, even more so than me with my duff execution figures. There are several interpretations and ways of collecting data. Rattling on about whose is better than whose is just digging holes. It was a lot of people and it shouldn't have happened and it was our fault and it helped to generate another era of terrorism for us to confront. First and foremost, it generated much misery and instability in Iraq, and we're reaping the whirlwind once again.