years ago a couple of Ozcatters couldn't get into Mudcat - it appears Australia's largest ISP was banned by Mudcat's host???? (I can't find the details) cos one/some of its millions of clients was/were spamming. Joe & a very techy Ozcatter sorted it out, but we had to visit the Cat via proxies for a while (courtesy of the techy Ozcatter).

or something like that - as I wrote, I can't remember the exact details

sandra