Having had my little moment of sarcasm, I will just say that we do of course, as 'folk' fans, (whatever your definition) owe a great debt to the likes of Jim Carroll and his tireless work in recording, protecting and maintaining traditional song. Thank you Jim.

And just to repeat what I said earlier, I've enjoyed this debate, and if by chance I'm still around in 60 years time, expect me to be a bit grumpy, I'll be 110 by then ;)

John