I repeat doesn't get it -never will.....

you think hardship is just something suffered by gypsies and bloody fossils singing songs that have died out cos they weren't all that good anyway.

when i taught in the inner ring of brum, i taught kids who were ragged, hungry and abused. and where was the trad folk scene - blithering on about pretty ploughboys and setting its face firmly against any intercourse with modern life.

Musket and i both lived pretty near to the frontline through the miners strike. there were still some insensitive clods turning up treating us to renditions of the blackleg miner.

when the oppressed sing it will not be in the voices wished on them by MacColl and Lloyd.

you don't get it ...you never will. let's agree to differ. in a hundred years - we will be seen as people who were interested in folk music. if they remember us at all - they won't know the difference between you and me.