The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #155357   Message #3658720
Posted By: The Sandman
09-Sep-14 - 09:55 AM
Thread Name: What makes a new song a folk song?
Subject: RE: What makes a new song a folk song?
""MacColl and Lloyd" both sang the songs the heard the older people from the same rat-infested sites, the same pit villages, the same fishing communities I got my songs from"
and lloyd made up some of the songs he "collected".
macColl also borrowed from other traditions to find tunes,not a crticism but a fact, MacColl also used theatrical techniques in his presentation and performance, Lloyd adopted the technique of singing with a smile on his face, which owed nothing to the tradition, so dont get too carried away with the idea that ewan and bert derived their styles from the proletariat or from trad singers, they may have sung some repertoire that derived from tradtional singers , but both of them[ particularly lloyd] did not sing in the style of traditional singers, maccoll was a imo a good singer but he used dramatic effect[ this is not a criticism] in his singing[ which is uncommon in my experience of a lot of trad singers