"You have contributed noting to the topic under this discussion, but have made this and the other one a part of your obsessive vendetta"   
       incorrect yet again. here are four posts, that contribute to the topic under discussion
Subject: RE: What makes a new song a folk song?
From: Good Soldier Schweik - PM
Date: 31 Aug 14 - 03:52 PM

"So, the serious question is, what makes a new song a folk song? Should it have a particular kind of tune? Must it carry an important message? Does it need to be about ordinary people's lives?"
as far as the uk folk revival goes, most of the songs that are considered to be in tradtional style, belong to a limited group of modes, so yes they do appear to have particular kinds of tunes, limited to certain modes, they do not all appear to carry an important message, and some are not about ordinary peoples lives.
for example ICARUS was not an ordinary person.
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Subject: RE: What makes a new song a folk song?
From: Good Soldier Schweik - PM
Date: 31 Aug 14 - 05:14 PM

al, i said some are not about ordinary peoples lives, some of course are, but they do not necessarily have to be about ordinary people.
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Subject: RE: What makes a new song a folk song?
From: Good Soldier Schweik - PM
Date: 01 Sep 14 - 08:17 AM

"Genuine folk at least has a provenance and some sort of pedigree.
I've always believed that the best way to plan your future is to understand your past - that goes for music as much as anything else."
often but not always, for example some football songs[ which fall under the 1954 defintion of folk song], are genuine folk, but they often are not very good, for example the wheel barrow song[ sung by notts county fans , it has a provenance , [on top of old smokey], but it[ the wheelbarrow song] is a genuine folk song but a crap one., football crowd songs are folk songs, but do not have folk a pedigree or folkprovenace [youll never walk alone]         
talking a bout arrogance, MacColl was someone who came into that category, excellent song writer and performer that he was, an example of his arrogance was the occasion that he stopped Lisa Turner in mid song to remind her publicly of the singers club, song policy, the correct thing was to have had a quiet word privately.
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Subject: RE: What makes a new song a folk song?
From: Good Soldier Schweik - PM
Date: 01 Sep 14 - 12:21 PM

sometimes the new song has to take its time, but it gets picked up and sung, examples of this in ireland are.. fiddlers green and song for ireland and caledonia, all songs written by english or scottish people, but songs that mean something to people outside the uk folk revival and are assumed to be tradtional.

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