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Thread #155357   Message #3659582
Posted By: Howard Jones
12-Sep-14 - 05:27 AM
Thread Name: What makes a new song a folk song?
Subject: RE: What makes a new song a folk song?
To revert to the original question, there seems to be no hard and fast rule over what might be regarded as 'folk' in the wider sense. Songs written in a style which reflects traditional styles seem to qualify without much disagreement (even from Jim!). Other songs seem to pass muster if they are performed in a recognisably 'folky' style (let's not discuss what that means!), even pop songs in some circumstances.

Established folk performers seem to be permitted a bit more latitude than mere floorsingers. I don't recall ever hearing Elvis covers, but Nic Jones would play Buddy Holly, in his own style of course. Swan Arcade did a cracking version of the Kinks' 'Lola'. June Tabor's version of 'Love will tear us apart' is approached no differently from her band's arrangements of both modern songs with a more folky pedigree or traditional ballads. Of course, in all these cases these form part of a much broader repertoire which included traditional songs.

It's an aesthetic judgement rather than something which can fall within a definition. What a performer can get away with will depend on the ethos of the club and the tastes of the audience. The same goes of course for treatments of traditional songs.

I think what is usually expected from such songs is that the lyrics should be intelligent (and intelligible) and make a point or carry a message, and often have a narrative. This would seem to rule out a lot of pop songs, no matter how they are performed.