Liland, thank you, but "quondam"? What are quandoms? Related to Condoms? or to Ferrets? Perhaps to "Carols"? I once knew a ferret called "Stinky"..and he was....does this compute? Carol, just get a Corgi. Makes life easier. Someone to talk to, who actually answers. I swear, our boy, Ghillie, speaks English. He says--yes, no, hello, meow, what, NOW? go, when, bed.......these are sounds he actually vocalizes, his Understood English vocab is several hundred words.........(not including "food", "eat", "cookie", etc.......