Jim, I'm not talking about the 1954 definition, I asking about all those other songs that you consider acceptabe in a folk club. Are you seriously telling me that the list of people you gave in your post of 01 Sep 14 - 11:46 AM comes from research done by "those who did the work long before came on the scene."? Who did this research? Where is it published? If none of the names I gave in my post are on that list does that mean they aren't acceptable? Will no new songs written after publication date be allowed?