"I asking about all those other songs that you consider acceptable in a folk club"
Of course I'm not.
I have become extremely tired of saying that I am perfectly happy with newly composed songs being included in a folk song evening - you damn well know this - I have advocated it in all my arguments - I have stated the my main influence has been MacColl - who wrote more contemporary songs using folk forms than most people had hot dinners
The list I put up were people who were doing likewise.
The song they were writing were not folk songs (I've never argued that they can't become such), but their being performed at a folk club has far more validity than those being proposed here - all were using folk forms to make new songs - great, what I've always dreamed of happening extensively.
That isn't a subjective judgement - it's something that can be verified by merely comparing the forms.
"Will no new songs written after publication date be allowed?"
It has never been a matter of what will be "allowed" - that is a somewhat dishonest twist of your own - it is a matter of what is acceptable to someone who might have a little idea of what the term means based on what has gone before, or what is to be found in 'the Penguin Book of Folk Songs.... or any such long-term and accepted collection you care to name.... or even, (dare I suggest it?) what is indicated by a dictionary definition.
You, rather dishonestly, entered into this discussion by suggesting that I might go to your club brandishing a copy of '54 - I have many disagreements with you, but I expected a little more from you than that.
"Yes you have Jim you just can't do it on the basis of a club using Folk in its name."
After several requests, you have finally got round to responding to my first question - a little late, but better late than never, I suppose.
So calling a club 'folk' no is longer an indication of what goes on there - little wonder that someone who has claimed the clubs are in the bloom of health and who haspersited in suggesting that my suggestion that they are not is down to my not visiting them anymore, is somewhat backward in coming forward with the answer you have just given.
I await with some interest to see if you get round to answering my other question, do you find putting on 1950s pop et al, a fair way to treat people who have turned up to listen to folk songs?.   
"'fraid to say though, I expect Mr Carroll scared off the OP a long time ago!"
My name is Jim Carroll - I consider referring to me as "Mr Carroll" in the unfriendly and aggressive way that you have, coupled with your accusation that I have "scared people off", not only unpleasant, but somewhat ludicrous from someone who has accused me of being insulting - perhaps a "irony implant' would be in order for you, Bryan and The Skibbereen Stalker.
If you find putting a case I believe in strongly after a great deal of actual work, study and practical experience 'scary' - perhaps a forum that debates topics that are sometimes contentious, is not the place for you.
I can't remember the last time Bryan approached any of our arguments with anything other than sneery facetiousness.
As for his running mate, The Skibbereen Stalker - out of the his - what - twenty, thirty, forty, fifty postings, the majority have been aimed directly at me - and nearly all worded in personal and often extremely insulting terms.
Most of them have accused me of being insulting to people, one of the last warned me to stay out of West Cork - he declines to say 'or what'.
Now there's an urgent case for an 'irony implant' if I ever there was one!
Earlier on, I reacted badly to being accused of going to clubs brandishing a copy of '54 and of indulging in "selective listening" - I'm sorry I did so, but I can't promise I wouldn't do the same in similar circumstances.
Get a grip, all of you - the aggression and nastiness is coming from your side of the fence - not the stuff idea sharing is made of, as far as I'm concerned.
Jim Carroll