Jim Carroll
The posting you refer to is a mish-mash of distortion and misrepresentation of what I have said.
Who's doing hit-and-run now? I put a lot of work into that post and you just brush it aside. I quoted you verbatim and then gave my comments. How could I possibly be distorting or misrepresenting you?

Regarding the particular point I am referring to - you deny it happens in clubs - misrepresentation
No I don't. I said "I have never experienced this and you have provided no evidence that it happens.". (Am I really having to quote myself to make a point?)

this is what is being argued for here.
No it isn't. Nobody is saying that at all. Only you have raised this spectre with a little support from your friend Teribus who complains that that is what is happening.. Musket and Big Al and Bounty Hound want to sing their own songs and either call them folk or be told what they are allowed to call them. Musket thinks the clubs are full of retired teachers from Harpenden with a finger in their ear singing cowboy songs with books as aids accompanying themselves on expensive guitars. Big Al thinks they're run by tyrannical traddies who won't let him sing his songs.

If Phil wants clarification of anything, he is quite capable for asking for it himself - don't involve other contributions - make your own points - hit-and-run again
If you don't mind him misrepresenting what you said that's up to you.

That Joe knew (and cared) what a folk song was - sadly missing in these clubs you claim don't exist.
So what did he think of "newly composed songs written using folk forms"? Since these clubs you talk about are totally outside my experience, I'll have to take your word for it. I really don't have any opinion about them at all. If what goes on at a particular folk club is not to my taste there is nothing I can do about it except (as I have said several times) not go. In the meantime, you continue to deny the existence of clubs that I do have direct experience of.

Now, for the umpteenth time of asking, can you tell me what is the "fairly solid definition" of "newly composed songs written using folk forms"?

(I'd still like to know about the folk clubs putting on heavy metal.)