well actually no, they couldn't sing, play,guitar, or penny whistle. it really was dire. they all had fisherman's smocks. i think the problem with grey cock was, they had a tradition of being shite.

thought it would be my fault though, being a clown etc. Jim this is getting like a conversation with 'the old gits'!

and on the contrary, i go to lots of folk clubs Phil, where i don't sing - intending just to listen and learn. went to one last night, where a fine traditional singer called Bob Lewis was singing - probably not traditional enough for some present, even if he was Irish.

however unlike the people who voted for Cameron, I know shite when i see it. The grey cock residents - you wouldn't want them on your shoes. like Jim though, they thought they had impeccable taste.

quite beyond peradventure.