Dude, what does Harold Shipman have to do with this discussion? He wasn't a shooter, he was a doctor who murdered his geriatric, and often terminally ill, patients by injecting them with a lethal dose of medication which he had prescribed, and he then faked their death certificates. They trusted him, and they never knew what he did to them.

How, precisely, would those bang-bangs you get such a hard-on talking about have helped his victims?

And it really is false equivalence to try to use the fact that I forgot about one murderer as some ridiculous justification for your proposal that UK gun-death rates are greater than those of the U.S.

UK population - approx. 60 million
UK average gun-deaths - 50 per annum

US population - approx. 360 million
US average gun-deaths - approx. 11,000 per annum

Do the maths and report back with the result.