We do seem to be focusing somewhat on singing here. There are people who just play tunes as well, you know. I could suggest that such people sometimes have rather less tolerance for sitting in a silent circle listening reverently to songs. I recall occasionally having a couple of tunes, as two bashes was generally the allowed ration, taking maybe five minutes, then having to listen to some bloke singing his ration of two which consisted of a couple of his own songs totalling twenty minutes or more. The original topic is about guest nights, which could mean singers, tunesmiths or both. The way the thread has drifted towards a discussion of "singarounds" might just hold some clues as to what's up with traditional music in English folk clubs.