The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #155357   Message #3666508
Posted By: Jack Blandiver
06-Oct-14 - 04:16 AM
Thread Name: What makes a new song a folk song?
Subject: RE: What makes a new song a folk song?
I always know you are in a corner when you reger to me as "old man"

We all have our perspectives, Jim - thus we are each of us backed into our respective corners. Unlike you, I try & avoid the personal invective which hardly endears me to your posts, no matter how much I might welcome them otherwise. As I've said before 'old man' is a term respectful to your seniority & erudition taken from the film For a Few Dollars More - it's what The Man With No Name calls Colonel Mortimer.

So much for your people who had no part in the making of their own traditional songs.

The people make their own songs as integral part of their culture. Folk is not about that - the concept of Folk is not created by the people who made the songs; folk is a concept created by the people doing the harvesting, taxonomy, taxidermy, publication (the annotating & archiving if you like) of such material. Folk is defined and perpetuated by an external, superior, paternalistic social class whose interest is in the songs; the people are merely the passive carriers, though it were some exotic disease. If they were to make songs in some other idiom (which most of them are doing, working with their mates in bands or on computers in their bedrooms & posting their jams up on Soundcloud - a music which is just as much of their life & times as fecking folk songs were of theirs) folklorists, such as yourself, wouldn't be interested.

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