The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #155357   Message #3666708
Posted By: Jim Carroll
06-Oct-14 - 03:51 PM
Thread Name: What makes a new song a folk song?
Subject: RE: What makes a new song a folk song?
"Why do you have to resort to lies Jim?"
What "lies" Muskie?
Is this not what you said?
"Buddy Holly songs are much older than many of the songs that Child collected were in his day."
Do not call me a liar - I may make mistakes - I usually acknowledge that have when they are pointed out
I do not tell lies - if I did I wouldn't bother my arse taking part in discussions.
"Jim didn't give a view though, he tried dictating that he is right so no other view counts"
!Spleen, I agree absolutely, music is music and should be judged only by whether its any good or not"
I didn't give a view because I wasn't around to do so.
"judgement" of music has never been the question here, not as far as I'm concerned.
You don't define a songs and being anything because it is "good music" - I don't anyway
You define it for what it is - you can't "like" something into being a folk song - that's what it is, whether you like it or not.
This is the problem with all these arguments - they become value judgements.
Your argument from the start has been a folk song is what I ever choose to call a folk song - you have never rationalised that argument so I can only assume that you are basing that outrageously stupid attitude on like and dislike.
Respect for the older singers should be for their contribution in passing on their songs - nothing to do with them being good or bad singers.
They are not part of this shit and openly insulting them, as both Muskie and Blandiver have should not be part of these discussions.
Most of them were old wen they were recorded, no need for the contempt that has been shown here - in my experience, none of them were the liars Blandy the Bluffer makes them out to be.
Jim Carroll