Keith A of Hertford
""14 Oct 14 - 12:57 PM ...And that document bears out the point made by EdT, that marriage is a universally recognised arrangement.....Marriage has been exclusively for MF for millennia.
(Let those who deny that produce examples please)...""

Keith A of Hertford
""17 Oct 14 - 12:55 PM 
I mean the same marriage as available to opposite sex couples at that time.
And in the last thousand years, not the ancient world.""

Examples of attempts to "stack the deck" in a discussion, by making an initial statement and later changing the parameters- in attempts to prove the beliefs are correct, after requested examples are provided (though likely not read).

Why was the past 1000 years selected? Well, it is because, Christianity has had the major impact in defining what is the marriage institution is in in this period-which is exactly the problem gay marriage has faced.

Good try Keith A, you are a good student of Ake's "cherry picking" techniques. Ake is
Likely less smooth, and it is easier to see through his reasoning to get to the desired result.