'But whose pleasure? If it's only for the singer's own pleasure it's just self-indulgence

Perhaps it is self-indulgent Howard, surely that's exactly why people go to singarounds, because they want to sing for their own pleasure. That's exactly why I would go to a singaround, and when I go, I would be supportive of those who are doing the same, but are not the world's best singer/musician.

I go to 'perform' elsewhere.

John