'Perhaps for you the social element makes up for this'

Actually Howard, you have probably hit the nail bang on the head as far as I'm concerned, I do look at singarounds as more of a social thing, which would also explain our different opinions on 'performance' and 'audience'.

I would also hope that you are right and those taking part would strive to do their best, but at risk of sounding judgemental, I see a lot of folks at singarounds who either lack the technical ability or the skill to improve, (or perhaps the motivation, if it is something they just pop along to once a month) so they are what they are, and we either have to accept that or choose not to go to that particular singaround.

John