The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #155902   Message #3672143
Posted By: Steve Shaw
25-Oct-14 - 07:51 PM
Thread Name: BS: Vegan mudcatters
Subject: RE: BS: Vegan mudcatters
Well I'm all for anyone who wants to adopting whatever diet they desire, but I'm not for anyone pontificating about the faux-moral high ground of vegetarianism (not that I'm accusing anyone here of that...) Think about it. If the human race went totally veggie, there would be no animal manure for fertiliser. That means billions in the third world relying on massive multinationals selling them artificial fertilisers at inflated prices. We'd end up with massive soil erosion on a scale that would dwarf the dustbowl era. It would also mean taking out billions of hectares of marginal land, especially in hilly areas where agri-machinery is next to useless, land suitable only for grazing and moving herds around on a seasonal basis, which would revert to useless scrub or desert. Yes, I'm all for us eating a lot less meat, especially meat produced on land which used to be rainforest (nice one, obese USA), or meat produced under conditions of more-than-questionable welfare, or meat produced on good arable land, or meat fed on crops grown on arable land that could have fed seven times more humans. This is all about a balance that we have yet to achieve. But let's not have lies about what our bodies were "designed to eat". Cavemen and cavewomen ate tons of flesh whether you like it or not, and we haven't changed much since. Our digestive tract is ill-fitted for a completely veggie diet: it's way too short and it lacks the ability to break down plant cell walls to anything like the degree required for a healthy plant-food intake. On the other hand, our digestive tract is very good at digesting meat and fish. Inconvenient but true. And a vegan has considerable difficulty avoiding deficiencies of certain vitamins and minerals and amino acids. If you're a veggie because you can't stand meat, I applaud you. If you're a veggie because you abhor poor animal welfare, well good, but you can get meat, at a price, that has been produced under humane conditions. If you're a veggie because you think it's nasty to kill and eat poor little fluffy things*, and think that everyone who doesn't think like you is a ruthless bloodthirsty killer, then have another think and get a life!


*I mean, have you SEEN all that fluff on corn-on-the-cob...!