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Thread #155949   Message #3677116
Posted By: Teribus
14-Nov-14 - 06:55 AM
Thread Name: BS: Lest we forget
Subject: RE: BS: Lest we forget
Musket - LIE - 05 Nov 14 - 09:56 AM - "Even Cameron had to upset the loony fringe of his party by removing the word "celebration" from the centennial proceedings."

The word "celebration" was never, ever considered, so pray tell how it could ever have been removed? (Psssst Musket: Please give the Hansard reference when you address this in substantiating the point you were trying to pass off as being true – if you don't then I most certainly will to disprove that same point just for the pleasure of exposing another of your lies and demonstration of your complete and utter "thick-as-pigshit" ignorance and ability to just "make stuff up" very much like your "historian of choice", ex Tory Cabinet Minister Alan Clark).

By the way Musket poppies are worn in remembrance of the sacrifice made by others – pride has got S.F.A. to do with it.

"They were lions led by donkeys."

Another example of made-up-stuff the man responsible for making it up admitted it, the description dates from the 1960s yet Musket is too thick to acknowledge that fact, and too dishonest to admit it.

Whereas others refer to official histories and accounts by a number of eminent historians Musket relies on one discredited "historian" who wrote the book about 1915 in a deliberately controversial manner in order to make some quick cash, a lefty-luvvie stage musical from 1960s (Oh What A Lovely War) and a sitcom written by Richard Curtis and Ben Elton in 1989 ("Blackadder Goes Forth).

Musket - 12 Nov 14 - 11:41 AM - " Whether people agree with a historian is irrelevant. Historians are, ……….., subjective in their handling of a subject. "

Ehmmmm no Musket they are not, well not if they are in actual fact Historians. A Historian will detail the subject he is studying objectively and he will come to his conclusions and fully argue his reasons for reaching that conclusion – You would probably have known that if in fact you had ever read any study of history related to the period under discussion.

Musket - LIE - 13 Nov 14 - 03:09 AM - " 3. The butcher of The Somme was named as such by the er.. "well led, informed men."

You were asked to give an example of this nickname in use from 1916 onwards until Haig's death in 1928 to refute my claim that Haig himself never saw or heard such a description of himself – care to tell us why you have failed singularly to do so? The smears on Haig only started after his death orchestrated by politicians like Lloyd George who were attempting to divert blame away from themselves – a dead man makes an extremely convenient scapegoat.

Having gone through your contributions to this thread I find that they in fact contribute nothing. When your lies, misrepresentations, half-truths and myths are exposed for what they are you do as you have always done (See Musket - 14 Nov 14 - 04:12 AM) resort to ad hominem attack. I would say that that demonstrates that it is you that is - "Not very good at this debate lark" - Not very good? – Totally bloody clueless more like.