You see, that's the problem with using Mudcat to push a point rather than debate. The likes of Keith end up looking like disingenuous arses. Mainly on the basis of wanting to see military leadership as competent, which it never has been. Wars are "won" on the basis of who makes least mistakes rather than tactical finesse.

Hell, he IS a disingenuous arse... Every word I have typed is genuine but because he searches for opinions that assume otherwise, he just shouts liar when his awful mindset is successfully shot down in flames. People who know him say he is a decent bloke. Maybe, but he suffers from the same lack of manners many suffer from on social media.

Any more historians who reckon men actually understood and leaders actually displayed leadership?

Like I said. callous disregard for their men, damnation and futile loss of life that could be largely avoided if military leaders cared for their men and led them appropriately.

Boom Boom etc